RecChat: NextGen UI Updates, Dashboards, and Charts - 3/19/2020
Episode Air Date: 03/19/2020
Episode Summary
Join Patrick Hayden, Bryan Gillian, and Zach Malloch as they discuss updates to the Next Gen UI, Dashboards, and Charts in RecTrac 3.1
Recording
Transcription:
Zach Malloch 0:41
Hello, and welcome to a very special edition of RecChat from home for me. But yeah, it's probably about 200 yards away from Patrick and Bryan, how are you guys doing today?
Bryan Gillilan 0:54
Doing well
Zach Malloch 0:55
all right, we have a special guest host as well. So this will be our "Rec Cat" for the day, and we're doing this, trying to keep things normal as we're all dealing with weird stuff. So today, we're going to be talking with Bryan and Patrick about the new UI. And the next sort of step of plans and features for that. And as well as some updates to our timeline as far as rolling that out and deprecating the old UI. So a lot of stuff to talk about. Real quickly, before we get going, we are going to try to keep this as a half hour, we can go about 15 minutes later. But we are going to need to be a little bit more aware of scheduling. Obviously, things are a little bit tighter with people only being in the office at certain points and all sorts of stuff like that. So we'll keep questions coming in with QA. The cat's name is Faylen, thank you for asking Vicki. I call her Fey for short. So Bryan, Bryan Gillilan, our product owner, and Patrick Hayden, our director of product management, and take it away, guys.
Patrick Hayden 2:01
So like Zach mentioned, we wanted to kind of focus on, refocus on the Next Gen UI, which we know a number of you are already using kind of full time. But also a large number of people still haven't migrated away from the legacy UI yet. So I thought it was worth sort of revisiting this topic, the last time we visited that it was sort of brand new. And there was still some lack of feature parity between the old UI and the new UI. We had been planning on kind of an April timeframe to deprecate the legacy UI. But due to a number of factors, we decided to extend that a bit to give everyone a little more breathing room and allow people to get accustomed to some of the features that Bryan is going to talk about today. So that there's kind of a full release, where people can experience some of these new features, especially some of the chart logic that Bryan's going to take a look at with us all and give people more space to get accustomed to that move over to kind of slowly and not be forced to adopt a new feature, and deprecate an old UI all with with one release. So at this point, we're kind of tentatively planning for more like June timeframe, to deprecate the legacy UI to get that full release cycle. Before we make that happen between April release in the June release, so that again, people can get on the release that will put out in April, and have an opportunity to take advantage of the new single sign on option. If you are using the VIC single sign on, we'll give you and us some time to help you transition over to that And also give people some time to adopt the new kind of chart features that Bryan's looking at here without the pressure of having to leap to the new UI if they haven't yet.
Zach Malloch 3:49
So the SSO (Single Sign On) and dashboards and charts, those are both planned to be released in the April timeframe.
Patrick Hayden 3:55
Yeah, the well the SSO piece, the new SSO method, replacing the old kind of VIC Active Directory, single sign on for RecTrac has actually already been released. And that's available now. But it's going to take some time for us to identify customers that are utilizing it and help them get transitioned over we're kind of doing that in beta right now. Some of you may have even been reached out to probably by Bryan regarding that or someone in OPS, if you're a customer who you know, utilize the new or the Old VIC, Active Directory Single Sign On method for RecTrac. So meaning that it automatically logs you into RecTrac Based on your Windows 10 Active Directory user. We do want to kind of identify all those customers so you can contact Bryan just to say raise your hand. You know we're in that list. We've done our best to identify often but I'm sure there are some who have yet to be added to our list to communicate with on that topic.
Bryan Gillilan 4:55
And to just follow up on that a little bit, we're trying to get a threw a few of those betas first, before we kind of ramp up and speed up contacting all of those customers all at once, and really get them on board. So if you have already contacted us, and you've only heard from us once or or you're worried, don't worry if you've contacted us, we've got you on the list. And you should hear from us very soon. Just to keep that in mind.
Zach Malloch 5:24
Absolutely. Okay, So Keith, hopefully that answers your question. And, yeah, I don't see anybody unmuted, besides Bryan and myself. But if anybody is noticing that their microphone is on, go ahead and turn that off, it'd be great. So but you had something you wanted to show us? Correct?
Bryan Gillilan 5:44
Yes, So pretty exciting to see kind of the chart feature, get migrated into the new UI. And I'll share a little PowerPoint here as well as a some samples of the product here, in just a second, I will share. So the first thing we just kind of want to talk about real quick is kind of how we determine how we wanted to go about bringing charts into the Next Gen UI. I mean, obviously, the classic UI charts are very much a part of the menu, both in the ribbon and in the kind of standard kind of GUI menu structure. With the elimination of up so much of a GUI menu, we had to kind of figure out a creative way to migrate all of those existing charts customers had and were accustomed to into the Next Gen UI without losing all of their existing data. So to do that, we had to create some new pieces in the product. And the first thing I kind of want to talk about is that some of these new pieces that we had to introduce are going to also be getting introduced to the classic UI as well as the Next Gen UI coming out in the next release. So even if you are someone that hasn't made the jump to the Next Gen UI yet, you will see some chart changes in the next release that goes out into the wild. So the first piece I want to touch on real quick is we've added kind of a new modified management experience for the dashboard layout piece. So dashboards used to get laid out in the menu management program, with Tabs and groups, but they were very much a part of the menu, the actual process of how you do that isn't really changing. So it's still very much like menu management. And I'm going to actually just walk over here real quick to RecTrac, to kind of give you guys a glimpse of what I'm talking about there, there's gonna be a new program and all of your Menus, both classic and Next Gen UI. This is one of these menu items that gets added to your menu, if you have the auto update on for a group. And we'll send out in the FAQ which group this particular menu item gets loaded in and the new update. But it's a new dashboard management program. And without getting into too much crazy detail here. Essentially, there's a new Screen in the RecTrac application called dashboards. And it'll exist for every menu design in your database that had a dashboard on it. So if you had a menu design, and there was one chart on it, you'll this Screen will already exist in your database for that menu design. In this dashboard management program. It works exactly like menu management does in terms of how you actually modify things in here
kind of looks and behaves the same way menu management would. Once we get in here though, this is where things change a little bit. And you get a little more flexibility on the dashboard side as a customer. So if we kind of just jump back real quick. The nice thing about this is it is still controlled by menu design. So same same kind of structure and setup as before. But the difference now is that dashboards are kind of individual Tabs on that Screen. So you can have a single menu item that calls one dashboard. Or you can have a single menu item that calls kind of multiple dashboards have multiple charts, and so on to kind of illustrate that a little bit. What you can see here on this dashboard Screen that I have is a current year tab and a last year tab. And within each one of these Tabs, I've got kind of some groups in there, again, works just like menu management did in the classic UI, just like everything works in Screen management. I've got groups and then inside those groups, I actually have my charts. So my individual charts that I want to display. So same kind of structure and setup as you would have in Screen management. But I've got a current year tab and a last year tab. So that kind of takes us to the next new piece which is in menu management, you will no longer have to add sharp items and menu management because chart items get added in dashboard management. So back on that part Our Screen we were just on. So you'll add your charts to your dashboards. And then in menu management, there's a much simpler, just create Dashboard Button options. So if I were to jump into menu management here, or my custom design. And I've got my charts under the dashboards group here.
There's now this Simple Create Dashboard Button and menu management. And this create Dashboard Button is gonna let you give your Dashboard Button a label. So I could call this global daily dashboard, or whatever I wanted to call it. As an example, it will ask you to choose a dashboard design. So these are many design system codes from your database. And what this is really doing when you choose a dashboard design here is it's trying to figure out which one of those dashboard screens from the dashboard management program it needs to pull from, because once you choose one, you're then going to get options of which dashboards you want to make available from this Button. And so when we say dashboards, what we're really talking about here is the Tabs that you created in dashboard management. So when I go to custom design, and I go to this Pick list, I'll now have the current year tab that I had in dashboard management as well as the last year tab. So for an individual menu Button, you now have the flexibility to say I want that menu Button to load a single dashboard, or I want it to give me access to multiple dashboards. And I'll jump in here in a second and show you as kind of what that's going to look like in the application. If you have multiple versus a single when you create them. I've got a couple of examples here to illustrate. So I've got a visit dashboard, that's just a single dashboard. And then I've got a year to date visit dashboard and a last year visit dashboard. So if you recall, in my update, I have a current year and a last year tab here. So those are my kind of two dashboards that I've created when I actually go to my menu. The other nice thing, these are now these buttons, you create our menu items, so they can be searched for in the menu, they can be favorited, from the menu for your dashboard. So I have one Dashboard Button here that calls both of my dashboard Tabs. So those two dashboard Tabs will show up within this new panel in the application. As different Tabs I can go back and forth to right now I don't have any data populating in my charts. But we wanted to just kind of show the navigation piece here. So I have a single menu item that has multiple dashboards turned on. So each one of those dashboards will show up as a tab within this panel, this menu item. This is also the other new piece of the dashboard logic is because it's no longer part of the menu, we're actually opening a separate panel in the application for your dashboard that you can keep up you can navigate back and forth to it all you want. You're not tied into it just being a part of the menu and having to go back through the menu process every time you want to access it. So I can have this dashboard that calls multiple, or this menu item that calls multiple dashboards. But at the same time, I could create a dashboard menu item that calls just a single one of these dashboards. And in that case, I have a specific dashboard now as its own separate panel with that with the same contents. So I get to kind of choose how I want to serve that up to my end users, whether I want specific menu items that are contextual to where they fit in the menu, or my end users, I can choose if I want to do it that way. Or if I just want to give them kind of one dashboard menu item and let them go tab to tab within that one dashboard menu item.
Zach Malloch 13:57
And Bryan, I think I saw something got refreshed really quickly. So these will be live charts, live dashboard boards with a periodic refresh based on the schedule, with that be right?
Bryan Gillilan 14:09
So that's kind of the next piece that we'll want to talk about a little bit is the kind of what's not changed at this point. So nothing about the actual chart management process has changed, you still have the same chart management program you had before for building your charts. You know, deciding if you want it to be a pie chart or a bar chart, the report process hasn't changed for actually creating the data that that chart is going to consume. So that's all still kind of as it was. And then the other thing that's kind of important is that your existing dashboards you had aren't changing. So during the update process, we will actually be automatically when you run your setup.exe, it's going to automatically convert existing charts from your menu into this new dashboard structure. So ultimately what's going A change for you as an end user is that instead of having a Button in your menu that expands the menu to show your charts, that Button in your menu is going to actually launch a new panel in the application to display your charts. The one thing that's going to change for existing customers is if you have charts in your menu ribbon, so I know some customers out there have their Facility Reservation monitor, for example, built right into the ribbon and their menu. If you had that in the classic UI, what you will see in the Next Gen UI, when you were in the classic UI, when you load this update is that monitor in the ribbon will be replaced by a menu Button that loads a full dashboard with that monitor. So essentially a panel for your monitor, or that or whatever chart that happens to be instead of it being raised in the ribbon, as there is no more ribbon in the Next Gen UI. And that was the one trade off we had to make was knowing we had no ability to kind of surface that feature in the ribbon in the Next Gen UI, we needed to make that one trade off that anything that was in the ribbon is going to become its own dashboard going forward.
Zach Malloch 16:10
And we had a quick question coming through. So I think that maybe we can address this pretty easily. But how much extra to dashboards and charts cost.
Bryan Gillilan 16:19
They are part of your product. So there's no extra charge for this that exists for every customer out there.
Patrick Hayden 16:26
For a lot of customers, if they don't have this, you know, I think many of the customers that have dashboards in place, they're they're put in place by their implementation consultant when they were upgraded, or when they were installed. We certainly have customers doing it on their own. But a lot of the ones that are out there were created as part of the initial implementation. Obviously, what Bryan just went through, to kind of bring awareness to how it works now wasn't comprehensive how to training but there'll be documentation associated with all this as to how to do it within the new UI. And like Bryan said, it actually impacts the old UI as well, once the release gets out there. But it's definitely something that people can do for themselves. You know, part of what Bryan's been pointing out here with what's unchanged, there certainly is some things that we want to change someday that we haven't changed yet that aren't exactly maybe the most intuitive with the chart configuration. It is important to keep in mind, Zach kind of to your earlier question about these refreshing, there's a pretty big distinction between these charts and InteliTrac. InteliTrac is obviously made to be very sort of interactive, and a kind of an exploratory analytics experience. Whereas this is more static, you can have the information refreshing on a kind of an interval, but you're not interacting with the charts, they kind of are what they are when you initially set them up in the data is getting updated. But they are really great for things like Bryan mentioned reservation monitor, you know, especially if you're trying to display kind of a grid of data, like a reservation monitor, or who's visited recently, and things of that nature, they're pretty powerful for that, and certainly something a lot of people get a lot of value out of.
Bryan Gillilan 18:11
And just so we can kind of get to that point. There's all kinds of different use cases for these dashboards. And the kind of the great aspect of them is any kind of data, we can create an a custom summary report output in the database. And I say custom using our kind of dynamic report building tool. Any data that we can surface in that summary report fashion can be kind of converted into a chart. So from that perspective, if if you're kind of a rec administrator, and you want to be able to at a glance, see how many visits you have at each one of your rec centers, at any point in time during the day, you can set up a dashboard that will show you the number of visits that have happened at your center that day to within X minutes, you know, so these reports can be set up to rerun every 30 minutes every hour of however frequently you deem that you want to have that information. And those charts in your menu will stay up to date on that refresh interval. So you can kind of have a current picture, look at your operation from a dashboard perspective.
Zach Malloch 19:19
Very nice. And I like that the having it as its own panel means it can be very persistent and just stay there and you can switch back to it anytime you need to. Well, we had a brief quick question from Frank asking if the frequency of the updates are we aiming for once a month every other month? Is there a predictable schedule at this point? Are we still...
Patrick Hayden 19:46
in terms of releases?
Zach Malloch 19:47
Yes.
Patrick Hayden 19:48
In general, at this point, we're kind of aiming tentatively at a two month timeframe between releases but we sort of do we do interim releases as needed. And we'll also you know shorten or lengthen those cycles as it makes sense based on what's what's occurring in the product and any sort of new features that we want to get out. Obviously, if there's critical defects and things of that nature, we're always able to do an Interim Release very quickly to get the hotfixes out there. But in general, at this point, it's an eight week is the general release cycle.
Zach Malloch 20:20
Okay, so if that helps Frank out. So Bryan, what else did you did you have something else to show us in this PowerPoint,
Bryan Gillilan 20:28
I'm really just wanted to kind of give that example of a single dashboard chart, you kind of can see you've got a specific label in your actual panel for that chart or for that dashboard. So if you want to differentiate between dashboards that kind of does that for you in the panel. Versus if you do have a dashboard that's showing menu item that's showing multiple dashboards, like the example we just looked at, you'll just have a more generic label in your your kind of panel item of RecTrac dashboards. And then you'll have the actual specific dashboard names as Tabs there into to access and bounce back and forth. And then obviously, the other kind of, you know, again, the nice piece about this is these all now become things that you can put on your Favorites menu, and kind of put in the sidebar, if you're an administrator that wants access to these things real time all the time, you can throw them right there in your sidebar. So there are always one Click away.
Zach Malloch 21:28
Can you make these so that they auto load the tab when you log in? Through menu design?
Bryan Gillilan 21:32
Yep.
Zach Malloch 21:33
So it just automatically right in front of you if you wanted to. Very nice. Well, I mean, actually, they're answered a couple questions about my cat. But other than that I don't see a lot coming in right now. So I guess to recap a little bit, and we can end a little bit early, if that works for everybody. But we have the dashboards are coming are tentatively scheduled are pretty definitely in the April release. And then we are looking at June for a release that would actually deprecate the old UI. And part of that reason, I don't know, Patrick, maybe you want to talk about that. But it starts to reduce our or kind of untether is from developing things for two versions of the UI at the same time.
Patrick Hayden 22:17
And I think, you know, this is an example honestly, with this new chart stuff of the sort of impact that it has, like Bryan said, to do the charts and the Next Gen UI the way I really want to do them what we're actually impacting the legacy UI as well. And as we look to the more and more new things that there's more and more times like that, where we're kind of constrained by what we can do with the legacy UI, and in addition to it being a resource drain on development, and QA and everyone, and even support, right having to be able to handle things in two different interfaces. So it just frees us up to get more done, get more value out of the customers by focusing our efforts on on one user interface. But again, we don't want to do it in a way that's really disruptive to customers. So trying to find that balance, where we give enough time for people to do it at a pace that they're comfortable with that they can make happen within their org, but not taking so long that it's really unnecessary drain on on our end. So I think this sort of push will help alleviate some of that pressure folks might have been feeling but isn't so much that it really causes a big, big problem on our end. I do think it's worth kind of reiterating to as far as the recap, like Bryan mentioned that, a if you already have charts, when you go to this release, they're automatically going to be kind of converted for you. And obviously we'll send along with that release will be documentation on how to do the some of the things that Bryan went over there. But also to remember that those changes that he referenced, as far as how those Charts are surfaced, impacts the legacy UI as well. So when you go to that release, whether you're on legacy or Next Gen, you are going to see that kind of change and how those charts are surfaced and managed. That's a good thing for people to just be aware of.
Zach Malloch 24:10
Alright, so we did have a couple of questions coming in now that we're talking about kind of the timeline and the like. So Valerie asks, they're a little bit behind on the new UI implementation. So where can they go to find it out? And I guess the two places I would recommend would be the RecChat archive, our very first rec chat was actually about the new UI and all the stuff going on there. So if you go to the Support Portal up at the top, left hand corner of or the the top menu, the leftmost says support, I think once you log in, if you Click on that, you can drop down to RecChat, you can get to any of our archived versions of RecChat, so that Bryan's gonna bring it up for us right here. So we have archived versions of all of the sessions that we've had. I usually try to get them up there a day or two afterwards. And I would point you to that direction the other place. So Bryan is going to support he's going to access support and login...
If anybody needs to access this and doesn't know what your Username and password are just you can start a support ticket. And that's one of the very easy and fast things. So Bryan, up in the center of your Screen at the very top, it says support. And then you go to RecChat. And that's our archive. And so that October 3 2019, Next Gen, we went for an hour and 24 minutes answering everybody's questions. So the first 15 minutes or so was an overview of what we've got. And then responding to questions was basically the remaining hour. So hopefully that helps you, Valerie, the other thing I would say is in the new UI, Bryan, if you could just switch back to, to RecTrac, maybe for a second, I just want to show them the. So once you are in the new UI, if you Click on the Support, Toggle down there, the little life preserver, and then you go to the RecTrac lab. So the customer support Bryan was pointing out, that's a shortcut to get to the Support Portal. But the RecTrac Lab, we've got the navigation, we've got global sales, we've got purchase history, data grids, we've got a couple of new ones coming out. If we refresh that we'd actually have eight released already. But that's a, we're aiming to get people in overview and introduction and orientation to it through these pretty quick and hopefully very helpful modules. Each one of them also has a PDF, so you can print those out as a cheat sheet if you wanted to. So I think that should
Patrick Hayden 26:39
I think that one of the things that Bryan and I had talked about that, regardless of whether there's sort of an explicit question on it or not, that will kind of include in the follow up to this RecChat is some of those steps for folks who are still on a legacy UI. What are the methods to kind of move over, you know, as far as functionally, it's just a matter of one Toggle. But you know, some sort of tactics that an organization can take to make that a smooth transition.
Zach Malloch 27:05
And actually talking and speaking of that Toggle, Kelly is saying that they have the new UI at work, but they want to access it remotely. And they were curious how to do that. And I know that's got a couple of steps
Patrick Hayden 27:17
So their WAN URL, they're getting the legacy UI?
Zach Malloch 27:21
I think, probably
Patrick Hayden 27:22
Yeah, so it would just be a matter of they probably for their LAN versus WAN. If there's someone that has both, they probably have two interface parameters, one with a local URL, and one with their Wan URL. And it sounds like speculating a little bit, but they probably have the Enable Modern UI Toggle on in their LAN interface parameter and not in their WAN in interface parameters. So it should just be a matter of going into the interface parameter maintenance for Bryan just was, finding that RecTrac WAN interface parameter that they probably have. And just turning that one Toggle on to enable modern UI.
Zach Malloch 28:01
Now as a quick note to Kelly, specifically, if you do turn that Toggle on everybody that is accessing RecTrac remotely, will then be in the new UI, they won't have a choice to go between legacy and Next Gen. So you could potentially Build out another WAN interface, and then you would just specify it with your interface parameter. I think something like that would end up being a little bit more of a support thing. But you see what Bryan is highlighting with interface parameter equals Next Gen, whatever your interface parameter is titled, under that record code, that if you Type that in after interface parameters, you'll use that parameter rather than whatever your default is. So if you set up a secondary, Next Gen Wan, then you would just Type in Next Gen WAN after interface parameter, and then you would be hitting that new URL. Okay. And, let's see. So Keith was asking if there's going to be an email about deprecating the old UI, I'm sure that we'll talk about this. Every time we release a new version, we send out an email talking about the changes and the updates. And
Patrick Hayden 29:10
yeah, and I think with this one, specifically, there's gonna be a more robust kind of campaign because obviously, we want to make sure everyone's very aware of this, and nobody's caught off guard with it. So of course, there'll be lots of information in the release notes when it's actually being deprecated. But well before that will start making it a regular part of VSI Connect communications and, you know, other sorts of ways of notifying alerted customers, because obviously, we don't want anybody to just get updated without sort of being aware. Awareness and preparation is really important. Although, again, it's been people who have moved over, have had, you know, really good experiences from the folks I've talked to, and it's been pretty seamless, but we don't want an abrupt move for people that weren't expecting it.
Zach Malloch 29:55
Absolutely. So Randy's asking if they can do a quick overview of the new UI, I think I'd point you to the same resources. We just talked about the RecChat archive, and then the RecTrac. Lab, we actually have one navigation, which is specifically an overview of everything in there. Maureen's asking what the quote is behind Bryan. So that's a quick one.
Bryan Gillilan 30:20
The quote is "continuous improvement is better than delayed perfection."
Zach Malloch 30:24
And that's either by someone anonymous, or Mark Twain, depending on which wall you look at. And let's see... Okay, so Nicolas is asking if we'll be able to favorite External links. So I'm guessing on the home Screen when you log in.
Patrick Hayden 30:46
So I think that was just recently if I'm remembering correctly reported as a defect where for a reason that I don't think we've dug into yet, those were the one sort of Type of menu item we're favoriting wasn't wasn't working appropriately. So I don't think that's anything that's by design, and something that we need to kind of look at on the dev side as a potential defect.
Zach Malloch 31:08
Excellent. Frank, and Paul, were asking about the color scheme. Paul was saying that some of the users are coming back with the, it's too much white on white, it's hard to see the distinction between the fields. And then Frank was asking if they'll get any chance to add more colors to buttons at some point or anything like that.
Bryan Gillilan 31:28
So at this point, we've definitely heard that feedback pretty loud and clear on the product, or the application being very white. So we've got some design discussions going on currently about how we want to address that from a product standpoint, without trying to make it to a point where we have multiple kinds of themes that we're trying to support over time and make sure we're being wCAG aware and making sure everything remains accessible in the product. So we certainly have some plans to definitely do some design changes to have a little more shading in places to provide a little more contrast in areas, maybe make the application in total, a little less white on white or light on light, as has been a pretty common theme coming in. At this point, I mean, explicitly to the question of a dark mode, we don't currently have any short term plans to do anything with adding a dark mode. But again, we're always kind of listening to the feedback and trying to determine what the best route for it is, for all the customers out there.
Zach Malloch 32:37
Great. Well, that'd be exciting for people. We have some people just adding some agreement, that would be nice. So Valerie is asking the question, they're still they haven't updated yet, because they don't want to surprise anybody with the new UI. But when you do update before June, so we're talking about June being the time we'll everybody will go to the new UI, but any update before then it's optional. So you guys can definitely get to 3.1 10.02 (is the most recent one out there, I believe). And you can then choose to use the new UI by changing that interface parameter.
Patrick Hayden 33:14
I think the follow up will send in terms of some of the sort of methods for introducing it and then transitioning to it will maybe help with that. Because I think again, things like just turning it on and Demo for a period of time and sending users to that can kind of let people dip their toes in the water and let end users get that level of comfort, so that nobody feels like they're getting the rug pulled out from under them.
Zach Malloch 33:37
Absolutely. And then once again, those resources, the RecChat archives, the RecTrac lab that you can get to from the new UI through the support icon. Those will be great sources. The labs are available to everybody that has access to that UI, so you can have people jump in there and check them out. And we're clear to the end, Jordan says thanks to both of us. So we had a plant in there. And yeah, I think that we'll go ahead and sign off. Now. We're right, just over half an hour, but under the 45 Minute hard cut off. So if anybody has other questions, please get in touch with us. We'll consolidate some of the questions that were asked here and provide a response document and probably skip the ones about the cat. But thank you all for joining us today and dealing or working with us on these changes and the new sort of scenario. I'll let Bryan and Patrick in first just so I can get the recording on my computer for sure. And we will see you soon.
Bryan Gillilan 34:41
Thanks, everybody.
Zach Malloch 34:42
All right. Talk to y'all soon. Bye.
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