RecChat: WebTrac NextGen Configuration - 10/06/2022
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Episode Summary
In this episode, our host Bret Alarcon is joined by EDU Manager Zach Malloch and Senior Support Specialist, Seth Warren, to discuss the configuration and adoption of the NextGen WebTrac interface. The group touches on what the new UI looks like, enabling the new UI from Interface Parameters, and some items to consider before making the switch.
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Bret Alarcon 0:07
Hello, and welcome to this week's edition RecChat. I'm your host for our con. So today is Zach is here, he's going to be talking about the WebTrac Next Gen UI adoption timeline. So what does that mean? That means we're going to kind of walk you through the basic setup steps of getting your Next Gen WebTrac, Next Gen UI going, and he's going to kind of help you with the doc as well kind of point you in the right direction on what to look for in the topic doc. And just pretty much seen, you know, pointing out the things that you need to know to get it set up. And if you still need help, he's gonna let you know where to get that to. And as an added bonus, we're going to have the little stump edu session at the end. So get your questions ready. Don't worry, it's it's not too hard to stump us. We've been stumped plenty times before, and I guess we'll probably be stumped again. We'll see. With us today are Julia and Seth, they're going to be helping out with the questions. So yeah, with that, I'm gonna hand it off to you, Zack.
Zach Malloch 1:14
Thanks very much, Brett. And how's it going with you today?
Bret Alarcon 1:17
Oh, pretty good. Nice day out.
Zach Malloch 1:19
Yeah, it definitely is. One of the fewer warmer days, I think we're gonna have left. I did see Marcus asked in the chat. If we can send the video out. We always post our RecChat. So this will be available for anybody that wasn't able to attend. I mean, also to everybody that is attending, if you just want to see it again. Absolutely. So yes, we will be posting that Marcus. I think you already said use the q&a section and all that sort of stuff. So you know,
Bret Alarcon 1:46
did I?
Zach Malloch 1:47
Maybe not
Bret Alarcon 1:49
I didn't want to do it there's a little q&a Button at the bottom Press that you can ask your questions there. I think I just said Who kidding, but not how to ask questions.
Zach Malloch 2:00
I mean, that works. Okay, yeah. So WebTrac Next Gen UI. Hopefully, a lot of you guys are already using it. And I thought that maybe we'd start with the first kind of orientation to it. Why would you want to ever do this sort of thing. You know, change is something that is not always the easiest thing to approach. But in this case, I think it's pretty good. So the probably the easiest way, I would say to go and see if you are on the Next Gen UI is just go and do an activity search on your WebTrac site. If you have all the criteria at the top of the Screen before you can even get down. And of course, you've probably customize this, and you probably don't have all of these search fields. But if you have it at the top of your Screen, you're most likely in the old UI. Whereas if we go to oh, I took over my session over here, let's just go back to and maybe it's WebTrac underscore one, I'll show you why I'm doing that in just a second. There we go. And then if I go to an activity search here, we can see that all the criteria, all the search fields are nicely on the left hand side of the Screen, there's a lot of other changes, you'll notice, you know, even just the way that the menu looks up here. You know, definitely different. If you have an image in the background. Definitely that's an old UI Type of thing. We're we're simplifying and streamlining in the Next Gen UI if you basically just have a place to personalize it with the colors and a little logo up here at the top. But we've found that that it's actually beneficial to look different than your regular park and recreation sites where people know they are in the registration process rather than having it near and look identical. Thanks to Rockford, Illinois for letting me use the nope, sorry, Inglewood. I think you guys both have a bit of a pirate themed theme park. And that's what my background is here.
Zach Malloch 4:05
Yeah, the Next Gen UI is just a lot less busy than this. So that's one of the first ways to determine whether or not you are on the Next Gen UI. Now, if you are not on the Next Gen UI, and you want to check it out, it is incredibly easy, just as the core piece of what we're talking about. So I'm going to go to I already have it open, I'm going to close it so I can reopen it, interface parameters. And this controls all the ways that somebody could connect to your RecTrac database. And you will most likely only have two or three of these probably a RecTrac a WebTrac. And then a VIC, maybe a WebTrac Demo RecTrac Demo, hopefully actually you'll have both of those. But on your WebTrac URL or your WebTrac interface. You have the default title, so just edit the one that has the default Toggle and then You can turn on this enable Modern UI, that's really the only thing that controls the difference between the old UI and the Next Gen UI. So very, very easy to switch over. But we do like to suggest that you test it out. First, you check a few things out, and I have a document. That's not the one that I'm looking for one second, there we go. So we have this doc, we will post this with the recording of the video. So it'll be right there. And it's basically just suggesting a couple of steps that you want to do to make sure that everything's up and running. Maybe the first thing would be to determine whether or not you're using one of our modern splash pages that is mobile responsive. So basically, the whole thing, all of WebTrac was redesigned to be very mobile friendly.
Zach Malloch 5:52
So it snaps down to the smaller version pretty quickly. But if I go down to this older UI, we can see that it's not quite as nice as that. But if I get back to my, I've switched back to the Next Gen UI. At this point, it is kind of hard to keep different interface parameters open because it is one connection to your database. And it likes to share that with Tabs. But so we have a mobile interface. Now, if you make your browser just more narrow than it is tall, then we can kind of fake the mobile piece. That's why I just moved my Screen around. And you want to basically check out your Menus, you want to check out the splash page links. One of the main things is really looking for layouts. And I guess we don't, yeah, so WebTrac layout review. And so each of these links to something else, we have a little video that kind of walks through it that I believe Brian, Brian hatch put together, he's our manager of implementation. So this document is pretty nice to walk you through all of those various steps. And then we have our really nice little image pieces here. So if you want to do it by yourself, you can certainly take the stock, you can turn on that Toggle, you can start looking around, of course, that is your live website that you're potentially playing with. If you have a Demo version of your database, you can go into the Demo version, go to your Demo WebTrac and turn it on for Demo WebTrac. And then you can do all your testing on the Demo site. But you know, the idea is eventually that you want to move it over to the live site. Yeah, so that's, that's what you would do if you were going to do it. By yourself. We also certainly offer hand holding for anybody that wants that some assistance. If you call in to sales or send an email to sales@Vermontsystems.com, they can get a quote together for you, I believe we're quoting, or we're quoting for hours, because there is potentially a splash page, configuration and application. But most of the time, we are charging for significantly less obsessed I see your hand up.
Seth Warren 8:04
You did I just I didn't know if maybe this would work. Or maybe you're coming to this point anyways. But for hosted customers, do they have to do the same thing? Or is this just automatically applied to them in their hosted environment?
Zach Malloch 8:18
That's actually a good question. I believe that it is up to you still we are there will be a point where there'll be an update for RecTrac that just automatically converts to the Next Gen UI. But at this point, we are not there yet. So it is still your choice to turn it on or turn it off. You know, I guess I could pop into a hosted customers database or maybe hosted have not updated Next Gen. For us.
Seth Warren 8:50
I was gonna say John just verified that that's the case.
Zach Malloch 8:54
Yeah. Yeah. So it's the same Toggle switch, if you want to this the same process if you want help, moving over to the Next Gen UI. And basically, all that is is it gives us one of our implementation team members to go through this document with you and kind of help you through those steps are going to make sure that you're not missing anything. And then, yeah, I think that's getting pretty much to I knew that this was going to be a fairly short and sweet presentation as far as that portion goes. But if anybody has any questions about the UI, if anybody has any. I mean, once again, hopefully we had a lot of people getting into that. Let's see. Change the logo? Yes. Well, for Eddie, I can't remember if you guys are hosted or not. And okay. Giovanni is saying that the image sizes are not accurate. So we would certainly want to look at that document and see if we need to update something there. You Upload Image sections of tiles in the bottom boxes. Alright, yeah, well, we'll we'll definitely look for that. So no, you're not hosted. So there's not really any different difference for changing images.
Zach Malloch 10:18
So Eddie's question was, while I don't have access to the back end image folder past the DMZ on our intranet, the upper left logo never loads, even though the file path never changed, is there a way to change and check the logo location without looking through the back end. So kind of, honestly, if you're in your, your page, if you can look at where that image is supposed to be, we'll just we'll dip a little bit into developer tools here, unless there's something else that maybe is needing to be talked about. But if I inspect this, or if I bring up, it's usually the F 12 key on your keyboard, at least for Chrome, and I believe Firefox, it's F 12, I think it is for edge also. So this is an inspection piece. If I turn on this little arrow, then I can go up and I can hover over anything, I get kind of information about that. And when I Click on it, I can see where it is trying to pull that logo from. So that would probably be the most direct way to see what it's referencing. But yeah, you would still need to get onto the server if you needed to put it somewhere else. If you know that this path is not accurate than I mean, we're getting the image path from interface parameters. So when it's saying images, it's just this image folder, and then that ties back into Internet Information Services on your WebTrac server to define what images is. So you know, that's, if I bring up I asked real quick, that's also certainly a server thing. So you know, theoretically, if you had access to the server, you'd have access to the image anyway. So this is probably not that useful. But assuming or pretending that we were on the web server, we just highlight WebTrac. And then we can see the image folder, and under content view, we can see all of the files that actually exist in there. So yeah, ways to get to it, but you do need some access to be able to do that. Alright, let's see, what else do we have here? So Deb is asking about updating the splash page. Seth, do you know if that is? I don't think that's just on our FTP site? Is it? Or is it there?
Seth Warren 12:45
Actually, I'm pretty sure it is there. I think it's just the two offerings. So the hero sliders and the sections and tiles. And then, but yeah, it should be I'll I'll reconfirm, but I'm 98.3%. Sure. So that's quick. But what I'll do is I'll try to get the pathway here too. And I can I can share that here in the in the chat that people need to grab them.
Zach Malloch 13:14
And I see that there's a question that Heath has here, you said, you're using the sections and tiles login. Not quite happy with how much there's the negative space and you're having some trouble with your logos as well. And your concern is the piece that I really want to address. So if the if it modifies the HTML, any modifications could be wiped out with program updates. Yes, and no. So when we're talking about the splash page here, this is something that is fairly controllable by you, as long as you're on your own environment. If we're getting into the hosted area, then that's an area where we might be updating style sheets automatically, and the like. But once again, pulling into interface parameters here, we can see the sorry, we don't need to go to interface parameters for this. This is a WebTrac comment code. Let's talk. Let's jump into Profile. Since we're getting a little bit more into the weeds with some of these things. We go to User, we go to our web user and then WebTrac parameters. The reason I'm going to this is to identify the components that I would need to change. So I Click update here. And then we have our login information. Login settings. Nope, not there. It is under miscellaneous settings. Yes, so a custom splash page. And then this is the code for the splash page that we're using.
Zach Malloch 14:47
Now this code will not be automatically updated ever. It won't say ever I will say it never has been automatically updated. We usually don't edit anybody's common codes when we're uploading things. But if I come up to this comment code and I change it, then all of this code that is actually in this comment text is completely customizable. And it's totally okay for you to customize. Because we will not be automatically updating it. Now right at the very top of this, we can see that we are using a JavaScript file. And that is what is controlling some elements. And then we also have this customized style sheet. So the style sheet will also have some elements of control over how the splash page looks, you can edit this style sheet. So I guess that's what I would respond to your question with Heath, if the edits that you want to be made can be made to the code that's in this, the comment code HTML, then that's totally fine. And if you have your own style sheet, then you can access that on the web server, you can edit that and you can even rename it. So then if we ever did replace sections and tiles, or if we replaced the hero slider, the style sheets, if there's an update to that, then you know that it would not get overwritten, because you've renamed it and then you just point it to like, maybe we just sections and tiles login Heath dot css, and then that's your own file. You know, if I was going to get to that I would need to go to I can get to anywhere folders, there's my desktop, go to C drive. Get that over here. So you guys can see it, see VSI three. And then this would be on your web server, once again, web server folder, and then web is everything that is actually going to be WebTrac. And GUI is everything that's RecTrac. For you, once again, separate servers. For me, it's all on one computer, because it's just my laptop.
Zach Malloch 17:00
So then we go to CSS, and then we go to sections and titles, login or sections and tiles. And we can then just copy this, paste it, rename it and then edit whatever we want to with that. So yes, lots of customization options. And you shouldn't really worry about anything big getting change. Now if you are doing your developers tools, and you wanted to, let's say inspect this. And you see that that is being controlled by something called app dot CSS. So over here on the side, it tells us what stylesheet is controlling that. You can't edit app dot CSS. So hopefully I see you just said thank you. So hopefully that answers your question. And I will certainly dive deeper if people still have questions. But I don't think we need to get deeper if you don't want to see that. Because that would break my comment code. Since I haven't named it Heath yet. I'll just say that. Okay. John is asking how you control which modules are listed in account history under My Account. So what we're talking about here would be logging in. And then that gives us a lot of control, right here as far as what we get into. And then you're talking about history, I believe he said account history. And from this, we have our dropdowns. And you can choose various modules, activity visits, and then we do our search. But if you don't do activity visits, maybe it makes sense not to have that. So my initial thought is going to be that we would go into Screen design for this. Seth, do you know if that is accurate?
Seth Warren 18:38
Ah, it might be. Let me take a look. I didn't see it upon initial glance here. But I might not have been looking at the right Screen here.
Zach Malloch 18:57
History history history. purchase options. Maybe this is a management Screen and not a processing Screen.
Seth Warren 19:10
I think it is I think it's under WebTrac management, Screen management. And then under account history, there's a module tab in there for it. And if you come in, you can choose what the default value is, but it doesn't look like you can interact by like removing module values. I guess, you know, I think to John's point here to you know, like muni customer would never really need to access things here. Although it's, you know, on the list, but and I don't think there's system codes and they can't be looking at what they're licensed for just because they wouldn't be licensed for some of those modules. So, you know, maybe that's, maybe it's something that are that's hard coded in that, you know, we'd have to look at, you know, potentially having a way or creating a way at some point to remove Um, I can't think of I can't think of a way that we do it though.
Bret Alarcon 20:04
I see Maureen saying WebTrac menu management? I'm not sure if it's like it's
Zach Malloch 20:08
well, that Yeah. So that would certainly get rid of the ability to get to my account history. But I don't think it lets us control what's in there once we are there.
Seth Warren 20:17
Exactly. Yeah.
Zach Malloch 20:20
So in I mean, this is also something that's kind of interesting. So previously, we just had one WebTrac menu, but we split it into two pieces now with the Next Gen so the default Menus, all your search stuff, activity search facility search, and then your Account menu is the part right here under My Account. So we could certainly go into menu management, and we could remove the ability to get to my history, or we could rename it or something along those lines, but it would not affect what we're seeing in this drop down. So we will create an enhancement request to Bret or Seth, can you guys make a note for that?
Seth Warren 20:57
I've already got one. I'll, I'll take care of it.
Zach Malloch 21:00
Awesome. Thank you. All right. Jut is asking if they're able to create an additional interface parameter with the modern UI and able to Type that into URL to test without having a switch lifeline? Yes, absolutely. You are. That's actually what I was kind of showing you to begin with here. So the code twin in here. So the question mark kind of finishes it. And then the its interface parameter equals and then the name of the interface parameter that you want to pull up. So once again, going back to interface parameters. If we look at what we have here, we have this default Toggle turned on. So if I don't specify an interface parameter, it will use whatever. Yeah, we'll turn that off of default. It'll just come to this one. So right now I had to specify interface parameter equals PC for Pirates Cove, if I get rid of this and don't specify it, I probably knew that I was trying to do something there. It should probably back over at some point. But it can be a little bit weird when you're on just one browser for doing that. But but that would be my mouse got sticky somehow. There we go. So for Josh's question, yes, absolutely. You can just clone WebTrac, whatever your current WebTrac is, call it, Next Gen call it WebTrac in GS call it jet, special project, whatever you want to call it just as long as you can then reference it specifically, after this question mark and putting it interface parameter equals, and then whatever that value is. And so then you can test it out, poke around at it and play with it. While you're not affecting what would happen if a customer just came to your site. But I guess I will point that out is when you clone this, it's going to also clone the default title. So make sure you turn that off before you do too much else. And let's see. Paula is asking if there any plans to update the facility calendar don't like to say just one or more facilities available in the calendar view? Yeah, I kind of feel like so we're talking about doing a facility calendar search? Yeah, this is liking my.
Zach Malloch 23:40
So now I'm going to kind of force it to go to the Next Gen UI by pointing it at the one that has that toggle turned on. So if we go to Calendar, as our display, then yeah, we're not really seeing too much as far as too many facilities. But if we go to event calendar, and we look at facility events, I mean, this would show us what's there. Yeah, I mean, I think it would be pretty easy to add, but then the question would be when we're doing our facility calendar search, and we have more than one, like, I mean, if we Click on this, we can get into a long list, but you could have some of our customers would have a incredibly long list as far as what facilities are available. So I think that maybe that is part of the reason that we haven't gone deep into that so far. But we can make a note of that as well. Bret or Seth, if you guys would mind. Maybe we even have I wouldn't be surprised that's already something that has been requested. All right, but we do have some agreements about that calendar being a good thing to update. Okay, so Jut You're saying that your interface parameter piece isn't working to specify something difference. So you're just always getting the old UI and not getting the Next Gen. When you're coming up. I mean, I guess I would just start with something real basic because if you cloned it, it wouldn't have had that title turned on is the title definitely turned on. And that interface really should just be the only different piece. I imagine it'd be fairly easy to troubleshoot. But with Will, we'll go ahead and make sure we get everything else down. And then maybe you can shoot over your your links, and we can take a look at it. And then John is asking if there's a way to have holidays show up in the calendar. Yeah. Because that could be part of the enhancement requests, if there's a system holiday to actually display that system holiday if it's affecting facility reservations, new changes to the calendar.
Seth Warren 26:03
Hey Zach, just real quick, I was thinking about Jut's thing. Do you think it's possible that from like, DB utilities, thing, like the conflict, the INI file maybe has like a conflicting URL, like sometimes if you have multiple instances is multiple instances of the same URL in that config ini file? It'll reference the top, the top offering first and not like a lower one? I'm wondering if there's like some sort of conflict in there?
Zach Malloch 26:29
I don't think so. Just when we get so Seth's talking about a pretty deep, sorry for the RecTrac. That is a man I can't even represent in Progress.
Seth Warren 26:43
No, I think it's VSI. Miscellaneous. No, it shouldn't be Yeah. RecTrac miscellaneous, and then oh, no, where the heck is it? Hang on, let me pull it up in line.
Zach Malloch 26:57
I don't think that's the issue, because we would be getting something more like a 502 error. If there was an issue with that. I don't think it would just redirect us, I think it would tell us that we can't do that. And it is really more about the full URL, I believe. But anyway, that's that's just a long way of saying so in the interface parameters, we're specifying all these URLs that people can use to get to the database. If somebody tried to put something else in here, that was different, it wouldn't let you do so. So if we're creating a brand new interface parameter or something along those lines, and the base href is different. That would be the issue. But in cloning something, it should not create a different base a traffic. So that's the video there's been site. So yeah, this looks like yeah, that's definitely the old UI. So let's just try that your face is and it is very, very concerned about. Yeah, spelling typos are not that great. And then what is the code that you're using just WebTrac? So WebTrac, underscore one I see is the Okay, so you put underscore Next Gen.
Zach Malloch 28:34
So the mighty just your browser, because that's definitely working. For me here. I'll paste this back, just in case there's anything a little bit different about the URL or if there is even like a small typo or something like that. But hopefully, that helps out. All right. So Topaz reader issues resolved. I am not actually aware of something specific in there. Megan about Topaz issues. Seth, have you heard anything about? Is there anything brought about that?
Seth Warren 29:12
Um, I haven't heard if anything's been released lately. I can, I can take a look and see what I can find, though.
Zach Malloch 29:24
And for Gary's question, is there a way to show a week view instead of the month view in the calendar? No, unfortunately, it is just a calendar, or a monthly calendar at this point. But maybe if we're redoing all the facility calendars, we could also see if that's an option we could put in there to give us more efficient use of this space. Oh, I see. Julia actually just posted into chat. I think she sent it just to me, but this is part of the 3.1 12 release a waiver timeout not working properly with a Topaz signature cap Sure, the actual timeout period is not in line with the Profile setting. And that was fixed as of 3.1. Point 12, or one. Megan says That's exactly it. And she says, hooray, thank you very much for that, Julia. And actually, that is a release that's already out there. So if you think that's the one that I'm using currently, nope, I'm on 13. So we actually just released 14, as part of our October release. So if you get any of the more recent ones, I should include those fixes as well. Okay, and I do want to switch or just address this real quick, because John said that you were stomping us technically finding out that it's something we can't do. I'm not going to qualify that.
Seth Warren 30:52
There's no way that counts as a stump.
Zach Malloch 30:54
We answered the question. Yeah. Let's see. Yes. And Jamie is saying that with the new update, he sees WebTrac receipt generation can be offloaded to a scheduled task, once we apply the update. What will the default be live creation or offload creation? That's a good, I feel like we just looked at this. Or I feel like I just really recently remembered seeing this in the last sprint Demo. I feel like it defaults to being on. And I believe that we're going to have a wreck chat specifically about that. But basically, what that does, is instead of generating a receipt with every single registration, we're going to kind of let things batch up. And then, you know, create the receipts a little bit later on. So instead of like Click here, for your receipt on the checkout Screen, it will just say like, check your email for a receipt will be sent shortly. And there's a there's a large number of enhancements that have been made recently to WebTrac that are specifically about performance. And that is definitely one of them. That's coming up. So I think that's, that's a I believe it will be defaulted to be on. Because that is it's a little bit more in line with almost everything else. Like even if you do Amazon, like you can look at your account history, but you get the email with the receipt later on and all of that. It's see, I see there's maybe a question or something that came in and chat. Can you show quickly how to make specific page changes associated with the new UI pages? That's kind of a big question, Shawn. But I mean, quickly, I can just go into comment code management. You know, this is something where there's also like depth that maybe this is what you mean, that we're just looking at the actual comment code, where we go in here, we edit it from here. I don't know why
Seth Warren 33:00
Hey Zach. I don't know that. I don't know that you're sharing your Screen anymore.
Zach Malloch 33:03
Oh, that's absolutely correct. I turned that off. Back on, that would help. Alright, so I went to comments code, or comments, management, just go ahead and actually launch it back out. So just quickly how to make those changes, comment management. If you know what it's called, like, I know that this is called section and tiles. So there's section and tiles. I also can get to it from Profile assignment. So I went here first to see which one if you have more than one WebTrac reserved comment code. That's also an easy way to do this. So we just look for WebTrac reserved. If we have more than one, because I have multiple splash pages, then, you know, I would want to verify in the WebTrac parameters Profile, which one I'm actually using. And then I would change it from here. Now I really don't like working in a small space like that. So I like to use a free program called notepad plus plus. And, you know, you can do this in regular Notepad as well. But this you can't do. So if I just go to H and turn it on HTML on your language, then I get to see all of this kind of coded in the chunks that represent the things that are actually on the Screen. So that's how I like to do it. So you have all your login information up here. And then you get down into your individual buttons and the like, down in these areas.
Zach Malloch 34:38
So you know, if you just wanted to change the label, you just edit this piece that's under the h2. If you want to change the image, you just put in the name of the image up in the top part there. If you want to change where it goes or the parameter this that it's passing, then that's all this URL piece. So we're saying you know when you Click on this launch the search program past the parameter of module for activity and pre fill the category of daycare so that we're doing an activity daycare search just by clicking on that Button. So that's a real fast way of going through and editing things. Let's see. And enjoy. Joe might be the last question that we're going to get to at the moment here, because we are definitely a little bit over time. Thank you, for everybody that's that stick with, I'll just go ahead and close this right now. And then keep going. Thanks for everybody that stuck with us. If you have to leave, we certainly understand that we will, of course, be posting this recording onto the Support Portal, once we're done with it, so you can catch up on these little pieces if you need to jump out. So okay, Jut did say that he had a little bit of a typo for that URL for the interface parameter. So that was the reason that wasn't working. And then Joel is asking in regards to the new UI, we have Custom Splash currently using the old UI, I really like our custom homepage slash login Screen for WebTrac. But also like the new UI for activity search areas, both best of both worlds. Unfortunately, it's kind of a package deal. Now you can of course, edit and change those Next Gen UI screens to make them more similar to what your current homepage screens are. That's just by editing the code. But yeah, unfortunately, that that is part of the change here is that the older stuff, and especially if we had a lot of see. Like, for example, if I go back to this guy, while I'm using the Next Gen UI, let me change my splash page. That's my Profile.
Zach Malloch 37:03
So I guess I will also say you don't have to change your splash page, to move to the Next Gen UI. There are certain elements that won't necessarily translate 100, it'll probably look a little bit strange. Let me just jump into the miscellaneous settings here. And I'm going to change this to my old standby 11, I think. Save that, and then I refresh this page. So now I've got this. You know, I haven't really customized this. But this is probably familiar to anybody that's been looking at splash pages for a little while with Vermont systems. So you know, everything is lined up and is working here. But this is the Next Gen UI, I didn't specify interface parameter equals, I guess I can do that Pirate's Cove. So in this one is constraint, we're keeping it within that space, which is the width of the scroller image up at the top, you notice that when we're in the Next Gen UI, switched over there.
Zach Malloch 38:17
It just doesn't have the same constraint. So every spacing is a little bit weird. But it would be a really difficult thing to go through and edit this HTML to put more space in between those or maybe you make it so that they're three across and only two down or something rather than four down into a cross. So you can edit, and you can play around with your current interface. And this one happens to be mobile responsive already, that would be the main thing that I'd say that I would suggest that you check, just turn on the Next Gen UI Toggle, or even clone the interface so that you can get to it kind of like what John was talking about. And just look at your splash page in the Next Gen UI and see if it's functional. That is something that you could potentially, if you wanted to get help with the transition, or you could talk to implementation, and you might need a separate quote, depending on how much it would take to really get it to look nice and confined in there. But the three defaults that we have are simplified and streamlined and mobile responsive and you know, kind of designed for performance. But if you if you want to if you're okay with playing around with HTML, you could potentially get your other stuff to work there. So I guess that's a long way to answer that question. We didn't really get to the full like trivia piece. I mean, we certainly addressed a couple of kind of random questions from a few people but we didn't get to the full stumping. But that means that maybe we could bring it for the 20th because that's going to be close to Halloween to Saturday. or something?
Seth Warren 40:00
Yeah, I was just gonna say like, off of off of Juts. Last question. I think he was trying to figure out where he could change the the misspelling of interface parameter and, or in his link where it wasn't working. And I think that would just be in the base href Field interface parameters, right, if I'm not mistaken. So like when when he was going to a site, and it wasn't, it wasn't loading correctly, like the word parameter, he was missing a letter in there. And he was just wondering where to go to correct that. And I think it's just the base href fields, or
Zach Malloch 40:38
what is one in theory in base href. That is actually not something that I mean, you could certainly create the link in your menu or something. But that's going to be a manually configured link to go to that other parameter. So it's just the typo in the actual length that you're typing into your browser to specify that
Seth Warren 40:59
I see some maybe as like a Button or something like that, that are a, you know, a bookmark link or something like that, that he's accessing that he just needs to update?
Zach Malloch 41:06
Yeah, it is the actual link itself, there's nowhere that I mean, like, this piece, this full URL doesn't actually exist anywhere in the system. And even this doesn't exist anywhere in the system. Now I could, I could create, I could take like part of this URL, and I could make it a part of my menu. So if I'm in my Next Gen UI, and I want to like to have a Button here that says, show me the old stuff, I could certainly do that. And then I could have another one that specified interface parameter equals the Next Gen UI, and then I could switch back and forth a little bit more easily. But it would only be in those places where you're manually putting that URL with the interface parameter specified. Otherwise, it's it's really not used very often.
Seth Warren 41:50
I see. So Jut did Type back in saying that's what's resolved when you Type in registered on Bend parks and rec.org?
Zach Malloch 41:58
Yes, so the defaults is going to get placed in there frequently when you just hit the site. But it doesn't really even have to be like, I could just use that base href and then get to it from there. You're just specifying the parameter. So either way we could just go to the Bend. Oregon. Recreation. So yeah, if we
Seth Warren 42:34
Yeah, I see. I see what it means. I had the I just went to register dot Bend parks and rec.org on my site and or on my web browser, and it came up with that misspelling of parameter.
Zach Malloch 42:45
Oh, so So that's at the park homepage,
Seth Warren 42:50
I would assume. Yeah, here I got a loop. Here I'll send it to you in the chat here
Seth Warren 43:05
so just register.
Seth Warren 43:07
Yeah.
Zach Malloch 43:09
All right. So Click register here.
Seth Warren 43:13
Yeah, and then we got puram theater.
Zach Malloch 43:17
Yeah. So yeah, I think it's if we inspect this I bet that's where the Yeah, so yeah, just update the spelling on that source page is where that's coming from
Zach Malloch 43:35
and you know, once again, you don't have to even have that interface parameter specified it will make sure you're picking that one but if you just have a default then you should have that as well. Typing in register and see and so that you know if you don't have it specified, and it's still putting it in then that's most likely is because it is the default. actually interesting. Now what is that pulling from? When we open up edge since I've never been here? Edge let's Angeles's edge.
Seth Warren 44:18
Maybe this is part of the stomping part
Seth Warren 44:20
of the presentation. This could be interface param parameter Yeah, that is interesting.
Bret Alarcon 44:39
But since it's the default, it could be pretty much anything right. Like you could just even more misspell parameter. Still at work. Yeah, it'll
Zach Malloch 44:49
still pull the default. So it's not like it's not working. But it is interesting that I can just go to this by itself and what it is It resolves to
Bret Alarcon 45:01
just passes them.
Seth Warren 45:06
So where would that be coming from?
Seth Warren 45:09
Learning the series by the
Seth Warren 45:13
Its not in IIS Yes. Is it?
Bret Alarcon 45:15
Yeah, that's something IIS has
Zach Malloch 45:16
asked. Yeah, I don't think so. Because like we. So just for anybody that's curious, anything that happens after wsc, it's not really a file that physically exists, we're creating splash dot HTML and bringing all that page up here kind of on demand when we're doing this. And we're going to splat or searched HTML, and we're doing a search Screen. But if you look for slash dot HTML, it doesn't exist as a file on your computer. Neither does search dot HTML or any of those other programs. So basically, anything after this slash is not really controlled by IIS, unless we're, I mean, I guess we could have some default URLs in our binding potentially.
Zach Malloch 46:13
Did you have a what is it? I'm trying to? It's not that there's there is something where you can you can have an HTML document potentially in your directory, and then a default document. That's what it is. So if we look at basic settings on WebTrac, here, not bindings. But in some advanced settings.
Seth Warren 46:47
John was saying maybe it was a URL or your URL redirect? in IIS.
Zach Malloch 47:04
Okay, yeah, there we go. So default document could potentially have something to do with this. So basically, a default document would be an actual file. In this case, like if I looked at web slash, like I said, that's not an actual thing. But I did at some point, create that, for an example, I believe. So. Unfortunately, there's not really an easy way to know I just have it in my folder. So I created this webs learn web slash dot HTML file, and where's my VSI. Three, and then we get to RecTrac. And then web server and then web. And so I created this guy, but all this is is a text file. That is like telling us what to redirect to. So if you have something like that, that that is a physical file that exists. It could be redirecting, and then it's just grabbing something with all this, this extra content in it. That would probably be my I can't think of anything else.
Seth Warren 48:21
I can't either. I mean, that seems reasonable. Seems reasonable.
Zach Malloch 48:28
Yeah. I'd be curious though. Like, once again, it's kind of a nice thing, because it's not actually affecting anything, people are still hitting the database, people are still able to register for anything they want to because this is the default. So it's still bringing this even though that's misspelled. So low priority as far as like actually trying to fix something for customers. But I would be curious if you figure out where that's coming from.
Bret Alarcon 48:59
You just said you got it.
Zach Malloch 49:01
Awesome. Thank you.
Seth Warren 49:02
Oh,
Zach Malloch 49:04
alright. Yeah. Very interesting way to end today's session. And we've 30 people decided to stick around and see what was going on with that. So that's pretty awesome. Thanks for the curiosity.
Seth Warren 49:19
Definitely, highly invested.
Zach Malloch 49:21
Absolutely. As I mentioned, we will be posting that document alongside the recording of this video. So anybody that needs to get back to that and take a look. You certainly can maybe Yeah, I think that's about it. I am ready to wrap up this session if you are Bret.
Bret Alarcon 49:45
I am
Zach Malloch 49:46
also check with Seth and Julia any any last minute things you want to talk about configuring deeper parts of the system perhaps before we
Seth Warren 49:56
I don't know if that rabbit hole. I don't know if that rabbit hole goes to much deeper.
Zach Malloch 50:02
Well, actually, for anybody that's still hanging out that is going to be here next week, we're very excited to see you and for anybody that wasn't able to get seat for this year's symposium, we are going to be doing one next year and we are talking about making it even bigger, so more people can come. So we will talk to you soon. We'll actually be broadcasting the virtual symposium next week from the real, the full symposium, and then we will be coming back with RecChat the week after that. So we'll talk to everybody shortly. Ready to go.
Bret Alarcon 50:36
Take care everyone.
Seth Warren 50:37
Thanks, everyone.
Julia Shefcheck 50:38
Thanks, everyone.
Supporting Documents
WebTrac New UI Conversion Guide.pdf