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There are some new changes coming to Google Chrome and Chromium (Edge) browsers that will affect your workstations that use VIC to interact with peripheral devices like Cash Drawers and Receipt Printers. Join us for a chat about how to identify if you are affected, and what you need to do to ensure uninterrupted VIC functionality!
Zach Malloch 0:08
And welcome to RecChat. I'm Zack here.
Ross Tenaglia 0:14
And I'm Ross.
Zach Malloch 0:15
Ross Tenaglia 0:16
In the dark today. But I'm here and voice and spirit.
Zach Malloch 0:20
Absolutely. And what a time to be here in spirit. When chrome updates, VIC updates, we know how that works. Let's talk about the details. So this is maybe your first message about this, we were planning on sending out a larger email about this, there will be a larger email coming with more detailed information. But there is an upcoming update to Chrome on the horizon, probably September, there's some consideration that Chrome might wait to roll this out, because it is a fairly big update. But it puts a lot of requirements on to using SSL and using that secure socket layer connection where we used to be able to get away with not using a secure socket layer connection. We went ahead and did a little bit of improvement on VIC as well not only to handle this change, but to change the way that we install the necessary Certificate, it now happens automatically. We've also updated that Certificate it used this is very technical. So if this doesn't matter to you don't worry about it. But we've made it so it is now signed for a particular purpose rather than signed for everything. There's some security reasons that we did that. And if you're saying yes, Awesome, that's great, then we did it just for you. So you're very very welcome. So did I miss anything there on the big strokes? Ross?
Ross Tenaglia 1:36
Nope. I think that's among other things that are even too technical for me. But yes, those are the big, easy to see improvement tools, you'll notice.
Zach Malloch 1:49
So what does this mean to you? So weary work just really quickly to come up with this basic, basic basic Screen that kind of just shows you if you're on or it basically asking, are you on RecTrac 188.8.131.52? Yes or No? If not, please update to 184.108.40.206. This is our most recent update.
Ross Tenaglia 2:13
Yeah, and just for everyone on that it literally just came out. So most people aren't on it and hosted customers will be on it. Next, next Tuesday. So don't feel bad if you're not on 22 yet it just came out.
Zach Malloch 2:29
And you do have a couple of months to get there. So by the time the chrome release comes out, we will be on a higher version but you need to be on at least this version by that point. The second question is are you using HTTPS for your VIC connections? And one of the easiest ways to do that is on a workstation there's actually using VIC you hover over it and what are the numbers we're looking to see their Ross
Ross Tenaglia 2:53
anything when you hover over it, you'll first see HTTP localhost colon Whack whack local host that will first tell you if you're HTTP or HTTPS. And that will be your indication. The numbers are for Next Gen versus legacy, which is another little step. But I won't get ahead.
Zach Malloch 3:23
So we need to be using that HTTPS connection. You can also verify profiles.
Ross Tenaglia 3:32
Yep, the default level, VIC Profile will most likely.
Zach Malloch 3:39
Yeah, so this installation Type of HTTP, or I don't actually have the HTTPS setup on mine. So I will need to update this before I will be able to work here after September, but yeah, I went to see HTTPS there. And we do have a document to help you transfer over to using the secure socket layer. And then once you verify that you're on HTTPS, and technically you can do this before you're on RecTrac 220.127.116.11. But you can get the Next Gen VIC install. So the next one that's going to be installed if you're already on 18.104.22.168 It will update to 3.1.10. If you're on 3.1.9, then and you have the HTTPS connected then when you update to 22.214.171.124, when you update RecTrac It should automatically update VIC for you and updates security certificates. So you can definitely do a little bit of pre work if you know that you're not going to have 126.96.36.199 for a couple of weeks but you're on your I think 188.8.131.52 was when we did the last big update to VIC, so you'd want to be on at least that version. Then you can install the Next Gen. VIC using HTTPS and you'll just be ready all you have to do is install 184.108.40.206 If you have so many numbers in this broadcast, and then you will update to that next version. And yes, Joel is asking if 220.127.116.11 has a VIC version update? And yes, it absolutely does. That's exactly what we're talking about here.
Ross Tenaglia 5:20
And I'm sorry,
Zach Malloch 5:21
go right ahead.
Ross Tenaglia 5:23
And I was gonna say, and if you're a hosted customer, and you're already on Next Gen. VIC 3.19. You just sit back and relax until Tuesday.
Zach Malloch 5:36
Yeah, yeah. Brian just asked that question in chat. So you've got it exactly. Brian, once you update next Tuesday, it should just automatically go through as long as once again. So basically hosted doesn't have to worry about HTTPS, you're already using HTTPS. All you need to do is make sure that you're on the Next Gen to VIC. And then when this upstate goes through, you will be updated. Does RecTrac have to be HTTPS as well? Or just VIC? Good question, Ross. I think I know the answer to that. But I'll let you respond.
Ross Tenaglia 6:10
Yep. So they're both the same. If you're running RecTrac as HTTPS, or sorry, as HTTP, this is what this discussion is about, you need to get RecTrac, your internal URL, whatever you use, set up as HTTPS. And that's probably the biggest push or lift, you could say, if you're not because it does require a bit of work. We do recommend that you do get to 10.22 As soon as you can for the litany of obvious reasons. But mainly that will make your life easier for the VIC deployment because as we mentioned earlier, it automatically rolls out our VIC HTTPS Certificate. And I know, I get this a lot. You know, there's effectively two certificates involved. And with 10.22. Our Certificate is self contained within this install now, which people on this call mainly hosted customers, they're probably well aware that they had to manually install the Certificate and then install VIC, the new three 110 Does that on one go saves yes steps. The second Certificate is your Certificate for the server. And that's the big what to do. And there's two ways to go about it. I know this is a tangent, but this is probably the biggest point we have a doc, we can supply training hours to assist if it needs to come to that. But the gist is you can re use if you have a wild card Certificate. If you are an existing WebTrac user, which most people are these days, that will effectively look like an asterix dot whatever your website domain is, as a wildcard, that Certificate can be used on more than one and many computers, including your internal RecTrac computer. That makes life easy. Because it's a wildcard. All you have to do is the domain to the new RecTrac URL, pick it up. Good to go. Obviously, I'm simplifying the process. There's a lot more steps. But that's it. If you don't have a wildcard where the Certificate for your website is effectively WebTrac dot your town.com. That Certificate can only be used for your web server, period. I know it's a little bit more money, but getting a wildcard is always useful. Because of this reason. If that's not in the books, you have to create a self signed Certificate that can run into some complications. But a fair share of customers go about it without an issue. It's just something you have to make sure is set up properly within your network. You know that's one of the things we get asked can you do that for us? We cannot we can lead the horse to water. But that is your network. We're not privy to touching stuff of that nature. We can help make sure it works. We if it doesn't work, we can tell you what is wrong and why it's wrong. But we will do our best to guide you but is something that you will be response trouble for it and setting up so that it works. But we have helped many and will help many to come.
Zach Malloch 10:10
Alright, thank you for that Ross. So Joel had one question about is there any way to push the updates to VIC? His curiosity is whether or not he can do something to trigger an update in the middle of the night? Or do you have to log into each Point Of Sale station to actually trigger that
Ross Tenaglia 10:25
the update will trigger when someone logs in for the first day because the service, the VIC update service runs every minute. So when someone logs into If you're hosted, l, notice, hey, we're now in a new version of RecTrac. And this new version of RecTrac tells us to be on 3.1.10. It does a pretty quick switch over. I was just working with a host of customers doing a UAT test on it. Once we got the UAT configured and tested it, I think it was mere under 30 seconds if that, that it went through the motions and did everything. So the short answer is no. But when they log in, the motion kicks through.
Zach Malloch 11:25
Yeah, thank you. And you said it was a few seconds to actually process the update. Ross
Ross Tenaglia 11:31
Yeah, unless you have the world's slowest internet and you can't download a 60 megabyte file within modern day standards. It will be pretty quick. Surely under a minute, but closer to less than 30 seconds.
Zach Malloch 11:52
All right. Yeah. So Joel was concerned about having to have
Ross Tenaglia 11:54
Zach Malloch 11:56
15 minutes before, but hopefully
Ross Tenaglia 11:58
that should be enough 1510 to 15 minutes, you know, just make sure they you know, log in goes to the motion, you'll see VIC disappear if you're paying attention. And if you have the icon in your taskbar. And if you have it on your desktop, once you log into RecTrac you will see them disappear. And then you'll see them reappear. And you'll see the three 110. It has a new icon on the desktop, it will be different, more flashy, you could say. And then you'll see it on the taskbar. And then we'll say it reconnected. So don't do like a transaction within like the first 30 seconds when you log into RecTrac Let it do its thing, but it will do it.
Zach Malloch 12:48
Alright, so there's a lot of questions that are coming in that are related to how can we verify that things are configured the right way? How can we verify that we're using the Next Gen of VIC, and I wanted to just kind of point out that we've got a few documents just right in our Help file. So you can get into the quick guide to installing Next Gen. VIC, and this will take you through some of those processes, it'll kind of tell you what you need to do.
Zach Malloch 13:13
So think that. Oh, yeah. And I will I'll just go ahead and say this. So Alexandra is asking for confirmation. But if you're already on HTTPS, and VIC, Next Gen. You don't have to stick around. If you're on hosted on VIC, Next Gen, you're automatically HTTPS, you don't have to stick around. You're good. Don't have to worry about anything. So let's see what will happen between the chrome edge updates and when VIC updates. So theoretically, you'll be doing the VIC update before chrome updates. But assuming that they don't update by the time chrome updates, Ross, what would they expect? Just no communication between VIC and RecTrac?
Ross Tenaglia 14:00
If Yeah, if you're not on HTTPS with your local RecTrac, and you're not on Next Gen. VIC, 3.1.10. When chrome updates on that fateful day, in September or October, whatever they decide, when VIC update or sorry, when Chrome updates, VIC will not connect, it will say you have a hardware error, and there's nothing you can do about it. Until you get updates, get HTTPS.
Zach Malloch 14:33
And then kind of the flipside of that Tim is asking about something that you had mentioned Ross. So he's curious if we know which version of Chrome will have these updates. My answer to that is not for sure. Because I think from changing a couple of things, potentially.
Ross Tenaglia 14:49
I think it will be obviously they have a long string of numbers but they have like a master number just like our software. I keep seeing 117 In a pop up, I don't know if that's 100% True, but in our dev notes, and what I've been able to crawl online 117 Looks like the one.
Zach Malloch 15:14
All right, and then the second part of Tim's question, or it was basically that their IT department does the role or controls the rollout of Chrome updates. So if they don't update to newest Chrome that everyone would think would stay the same.
Ross Tenaglia 15:25
That is correct. Yep, that is correct. And Zach, and I were also talking about it. Yeah, if you control chrome updates, that will certainly be the case. I also heard some rumors. And I don't know if this is going to be way later, or whatever the case is. But there are rumors that Chrome might just update or ignore setting, things like that. So I wouldn't hold your confidence and being able to control that. Because for a lot of security reasons, they're considering on changing things. I don't know how true that is. It's just the rumor mill.
Zach Malloch 16:14
And then the theory is that at some point, some of these security updates will be required to keep using Chrome potentially. So it might be coming. And there was a brief discussion about Firefox, I think all we need to do is say that right now, no matter which browser, you're actually using Chrome and edge will be affected first, but it seems like all browsers are going in this direction. So basically, we all need to do this. And then there are a few other questions about well, how do you verify if you are using the latest version of VIC? So right in this document, this is a draft documents who's that I saw your question about getting an email, you we will be sending out an email, it will be very similar to this. But this is kind of a pre release version. It might even come out later today or tomorrow. But when you hover over the VIC icon, does it read HTTP? Does it display 55110 or 55111? You're affected, or if you hover over VIC, and the version number is 3.1.9, or lower. So I saw somebody asked a question also about whether they are using VIC 3.1. Point seven, I believe, maybe that disappeared already? Or maybe that was in chat. But Roswell 3.1.7 auto update, if that's the version founder, do we need to have the manual to get to 3.1.9?
Ross Tenaglia 17:39
Yeah, so 3.1.7, if you were to make the large jump to the latest version of RecTrac 3.1.7, won't auto update to 10 I think it's only 3.1.8. In New York and auto update, we did a cut off where 3.1.7 will only auto update to 3.1.8. But it won't auto, it won't make the double jump to 3.1.9 or 3.1.10 3.1.8 will make the double jump as well as 3.1.9 will obviously go to 10. There's there's a specific not to get technical, a security code cut off that we had to make in order to once again make more security changes. And 3.1.7. Can't do that because of those changes. So yeah, if you are making this big jump, you would have to reinstall VIC.
Zach Malloch 18:43
And I did see that question came from Danny and he was on 3.1.8. So it seems like that will be okay.
Ross Tenaglia 18:50
Zach Malloch 18:52
And so there are a couple of questions about if you're on hosted So Beth was saying if we're on, are all hosted clients on VIC Next Gen and the not guaranteed?
Ross Tenaglia 19:05
Yeah, not all there's a handful of holdouts. Most of them probably know who they are. If you if you're a recent hosted migration, and like you were on premise and you came to hosted with us, within like the last two years, you were certainly on Next Gen. If you are older than that, if you've been with hosting services for much longer than that. Those are normally the people that are still lingering on legacy. A handful. I know a couple I want out them. I know a couple of my heart, but there may be more.
Zach Malloch 19:50
And so a couple of questions. So Beth is saying they moved to hosted in 2020. So probably you were originally installed with an older version of VIC Navy you up added to the Next Gen, but it certainly be worth checking. And so I'm bringing over my VIC log. So if you are on a workstation has VIC installed if you go down to your taskbar you should see a little V icon it should say VSI VIC and right here I can see VIC starting 3.1.9 And then down here I can see that I've got HTTP so I'm this is kind of telling me a little bit about it but the the version right there is definitely a clear indication also we can actually see it right there at the top. So hopefully that helps with people figuring that to go
Zach Malloch 20:44
Ross, Sandy is saying so HTTPS colon localhost colon slash slash or colon 55110 is okay to go. But right here. It says so if it's HTTP, and as those numbers you're affected, but if HTTPS with those numbers, you're fine.
Ross Tenaglia 21:05
Yeah, because one of them is service and one them to exe most people will be 55110. But yeah, and you do want to make sure Sandy, like when you open up VIC in your taskbar, or if it's on your desktop, it says like 3.1.8 or 3.1.9. Those are those are good versions, you may be not on the latest RecTrac version. But you're you're good enough for when you update.
Zach Malloch 21:33
And I'm sharing the wrong Screen to show this. But I'll take a quick screenshot right here and drag that over. So imagine that this was right down here on the taskbar, you can Click on this little up arrow, if you have multiple things. Maybe it's just on the taskbar if you barely have anything, but this little circle icon here, that's your VIC icon. And that's what I double clicked to get that log Window that showed me the version number. So that is how you would double check. And once again, the email will come out with more details that reiterate a lot of what we're saying here. But also have links to some of the the pertinent documents, including we have a couple of articles that are actually talking to like from Chrome's blog, talking about what the updates mean, and all of that.
Zach Malloch 22:24
Let's see. So Ben is asking if I'm already experiencing Cash drawer connectivity issues within the past week, and I'm currently on RecTrac 18.104.22.168. And VIC 3.1.8 should update to most version most current versions of both. I would say yes, you should update to both the most current versions of both. But without knowing why you're having a cash drawer connectivity issues. I can't guarantee that that will automatically resolve those issue. So a yes to your question, but maybe not a yes to the reason for your question, then. Hopefully that makes sense. Joel just wants to clarify that the port numbers after the connection for VIC don't really matter as long as it's HTTPS.
Ross Tenaglia 23:12
Yeah. If it's HTTPS, you're good. The port numbers afterwards if it begins with 65. That means you're on legacy VIC, which means you need to get on Next Gen. If it begins with 55. You're on Next Gen. And that's good. So if you see HTTPS, localhost, something that begins with 55, you're in a very good position.
Zach Malloch 23:39
And thank you for that. Talia is saying that she's not sure that or I'm sorry, Talia I don't actually know for sure. But they're not sure that they understand how to view the VIC icon. Can we look in the VIC Profile to see which one we're on? And I would say that would be a good indicator. But it wouldn't be a guarantee. Ross, would that be accurate?
Ross Tenaglia 23:59
No. The VIC Profile wouldn't tell you what version. Like if it's VIC 3.1.9 or 3.1.8. The icon ultimately, is your one stop shop. It's going to tell you everything that's and if you have VIC, it's in your taskbar. There's no way around it. So just Click that little caret icon. Find the V with the green dot right Click, Click Display. And that will tell you what you need to know.
Zach Malloch 24:30
And Alex is asking I think that we've already stated this, but if they did the install with the old cert the old way, do we still need to do anything to update the new cert or is that automatic? I believe?
Ross Tenaglia 24:43
Yep, that's automatic. And I just did my update about two hours ago. And I am I saw I plopped the new Certificate right in there.
Zach Malloch 24:56
And then I see that Anthony and Britt had some questions. Hopefully we to answer those, as we've as we, as we have answered the other questions, but please feel free to restate. If you are still confused. Brett, for your specifically, I understand you're saying that it would be the better audience for listening to this. We are recording this, it will be posted in our Help knowledge base. Brett, probably towards the end of the day.
Bret Alarcon 25:21
Yes, I'm going to have that up by the end of the day.
Zach Malloch 25:25
Okay, so we'll have this up by the end of the day. And as I as I've said, we will be sending out the email with more details. So that's certainly something that you can share with your IT department and might be a little bit more directly for for them. You're very welcome. I see. She said, thank you. And then Jut has a message for Ben. In response. He says that they had serious issues with certain brands, a cash drawer where the USB connections would just fail after a period of time. And they would need to be disconnected and reconnected in order to work again, is a hardware issue versus a software issue. We had to get new drawers for it to work properly. He's happy to discuss it more if you're interested. And he provided his email address. I believe people can see the questions as they're being asked. And somebody liked it. I will guess that it's Ben. But Bret, let's leave Juts message up there just for a minute so that Ben can get that email address if you would like to. And Joseph is asking if it will affect credit card transactions. I'm assuming you're asking if it is after the update. And you don't have VIC working.
Ross Tenaglia 26:33
Ross, if you have ETS 100%. If you're a PlugNPay 100%. If you are CardConnect bolt, it depends if your card connect USB 100%. If your PayTrac It depends and when I say it depends. It refers to your Profile links. Because I will say most times the credit card device profiles are linked to the workstation name. And if you're hosted and legacy, those won't return. So that's again, a very small group. If you're on premise, it will still pick them up. But not for the if you're bolted or IP driven. Where the physical card readers don't actually even plug into the computer. They're IP based. And if you're on premise, they will most likely still work. Because you're not using VIC to connect to them. But you're not going to get a print receipt in your drawers not going to pop. If you're ETS that's USB based CardConnect old USB based and PlugNPay is USB based. So those will not connect.
Zach Malloch 28:06
Right. And yeah, Manuel was asking about Elavon apparently elavon ETS is now known as Elavon. So that's there. But well, we
Ross Tenaglia 28:19
do say we still refer to them ETS because Elavon is a gateway and processor. So some customers that use CardConnect or even PlugNPay as their gateway use Elavon as their processor where ETS customers as the since been bought and now they're absorbed as Imani ETS is the gateway and Elavon is the process or they basically absorbed it but Elavon has a processor can still be used with different gateways. That's why we still call it ETS/Elavon.
Zach Malloch 28:55
Right. If you if you have Elavon anywhere in your stream, we can assume that ETS is the part that's on the workstation and it would be affected if VIC stopped working.
Ross Tenaglia 29:04
Zach Malloch 29:06
Alright. That I think clears some stuff up there. So yeah, just I guess the the takeaway here is that it's a very highly recommended update. We definitely think that you should get on to 22.214.171.124 When you get a chance. Oh, actually hold on. Andrew has a question. For clarification. I'm on premise VIC 3.1.8 using HTTPS and RecTrac 126.96.36.199 So should I update RecTrac now or after next Tuesday, and then I'll need to manually update VIC. He's asking how I would have thought 188.8.131.52 would have automated or automatically started
Bret Alarcon 29:45
correction there on 184.108.40.206
Zach Malloch 29:48
Oh, yes. So that's a that's a bit older then
Ross Tenaglia 29:53
Well, next Tuesday's when our hosted customers are getting updated through 10.2s is already out there. So you there's no dead Tuesday deadline, the deadline is fall 2023. So this fall, that's your deadline. So, you know, use this summer to plan on getting updated in your case.
Zach Malloch 30:18
Yeah, and the the reality is that 220.127.116.11 is available right now on our FTP or SFTP site. So you can download it and update it as soon as you're ready to do so. You know, as with everything. Dion Dion is saying that they actually do not see it on the SFTP C. S. F TPC site right now. Ross, do you know if that is? I haven't actually looked at it.
Ross Tenaglia 30:47
I would have to, we'd have to ask the guys that control that one.
Zach Malloch 30:52
So maybe it is being scheduled for I guess we got a little bit of an early look at it for doing some of our testing.
Ross Tenaglia 31:03
Yeah, sorry, we lied. It's 20 ones out there now. So hosted updating on that date. And it seems like the actual release to the general public will also come out that date too. Normally, they don't do that. But I guess this time around? They are. So that's our confusion and assumption.
Zach Malloch 31:26
Yeah, I guess, Kristen, I wasn't aware of the email that said 7/12. But if that email came from hosted, then I would assume that that number is the right number. Joel, the interesting thing is, we really only have one way to not be subscribed to stuff. So if you got this wreck chat alert, then I would assume that you'll get the version alert. We've actually been looking at the way our email subscription stuff is working, and we've considered changing it but if you're getting one, you should theoretically be getting all. So we'll just keep an eye on that you can certainly talk to support if it doesn't seem like you're getting some of the emails and they can double check a couple other things. That is bringing us to the end of our hour and actually just a little bit beyond it will keep answering a couple of other questions. Yeah, the version alerts at the update will occur on 712. However, we said Tuesday, I would assume that the email is correct. In that case, Tuesday's seem or is more traditionally, the day that we would push hosted updates. But once again, if the email says the 12th and that's a Wednesday, then that is when I would assume hosted will see those updates. Yeah, and then Linda had something in chat, we're on premise running RecTrac 3.10., or 18.104.22.168. We're not running Next Gen yet. Should we upgrade to Next Gen? Yes. The answer is yes. If you do not update to the next version, and Next Gen VIC and the H and verify that using HTTPS, then we would potentially run into some problems when those chrome updates come through. So I think that that helps, or hopefully, that helps. I mean, it's a lot of information. Sorry about a couple of things that we were a little bit uncertain about. But once again, we should be sending out more communication. This is the first it should not be the last that we'll be getting. And actually Sandy has a real good last minute question here. She was worried that she might have missed this. But does this have the potential of affecting WebTrac transactions? Ross?
Ross Tenaglia 33:38
Nope. Not at all. Because WebTrac is already HTTPS. And it's our it's its own entity. This is solely for local websites, software integrating with local software. So not with WebTrac. This is strictly RecTrac.
Bret Alarcon 34:04
Linda had a good question, too, to kind of finish this all up. So when does this all need to be done by?
Zach Malloch 34:11
Yeah, so the tentative dates for the chrome update is really the point where when Chrome updates to this version that includes these enhancements, that's when VIC will stop working if you are not updated. And right now it looks like September is when that will be. So when I try to get these updates and HTTPS conversions done by September. Once again, we'll be sending out more communication. As I was saying before I saw these other last minute questions coming in. This is maybe your first time hearing about it. It won't be your last we'll have articles out there about it. We'll have email sending out but we'll link to articles about it. Maybe we'll even have another RecChat as we get closer to it just to remind people, so we should have plenty of ways of sharing that information with you. And of course if we run into any issues or if we notice anything that needs to be distributed further, we will certainly do that as well. And then Ron are, are in Napier are in our RNA Pierre is asking if we can have a printout of the form we have up here. This is a draft of the email we are going to send to people. So I'm not going to give you guys this one. It's been displayed. Basically all of it has been displayed on the Screen, and we are recording this. But there will probably be some updates to this, whether it's just formatting or if they're actually new components and new information added to it. So sorry to tease you with it. But we will wait until we send out the accurate Oh, and there's our Chrome version 117 with all the other numbers that we're also talking about. But yes, more information to come a lot more coming your way. Last question. I see Amanda asking, and this is a really good question. Where can I watch this RecChat? Well, as long as you're on RecTrac, Next Gen. You can go to your support menu, you can Click on RecTrac Help. And then right from here, we can do a search for RecChat hears all sorts of different RecChats. This one will be called Chrome and VIC Next Gen or something along those lines, it will also have today's date attached to it. So if you go into our knowledge base search, and just put in 760107 slash 06 slash 23, you should be able to get it or 2023 You should be able to find it. We actually can get specifically to RecChat as its own category. And then we see like we can actually just browse through, I guess we need to get into an article then we can get to RecChat. And here's all the rec chats that we've got archived here. And once again, give us a couple of hours after we're done with this, for it to finish for Bret to do a little bit of trimming and get it uploaded. But we should have it up there by the end of the day. And everybody can rewatch this or any of the other RecChats. So thank you all for your participation and excellent questions. Maybe some of the most questions asked during direct chat. So we got a record here. And we will once again reach out again as we have more information and more updates. Thank you all for being here. And we will do this again if we need to and have other information if we don't need to do this one again. I'm going to stop talking because I'm starting to go in circles. And Brett I think we're ready to bring it in for landing in less. Ross or Bret, any final thoughts.
Ross Tenaglia 37:46
No, but I'm sure I'll be hearing from a lot of you in the near future who are still HTTP.
Zach Malloch 37:53
It's a fun, fun, fun conversion process. All right, but I think we're ready to go. Thanks so much everybody will tell you see you soon.
Bret Alarcon 38:01
Ross Tenaglia 38:01